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Ford Edge engine repair

2013 Ford EdgeπŸ“ Denver, Colorado
Potential Savings
Recommend getting a second quote for most repair costs.

A 2013 Ford Edge owner in Chicago used Service Buddy to evaluate a $7,132 engine repair quote, focusing on timing chain and VVT solenoid labor priced at over $3,000. Service Buddy highlighted these costs as unusually high compared to local standards, suggesting a second opinion from independent shops. By comparing detailed part and labor prices, the driver identified potential savings of several thousand dollars, ensuring a fair deal without overpaying.

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Potential DIY Savings

We recommend getting a second quote to ensure fair pricing.

Quote Breakdown

Repair Task Quoted Price Typical Price Price Fairness
Replace Timing Chain (Labor + Parts) $4,755.45
(Labor: $2,073.87, Parts: $2,681.58)
$1,300–$2,300 (labor + parts at independent)
$2,000–$3,200 (dealer)
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Install Both Bank VVT Solenoids $952.15 (labor only, no parts listed) $300–$600 (labor + typical parts) 🟠
Cooling System Drain & Fill $114.58
(Labor: $89.59, Parts: $24.99)
$80–$160 (labor + parts) 🟒
Thermostat Replacement $52.51 (parts only) $20–$50 (parts) 🟒
Valve Cover Gasket Set $160.34 (parts) $30–$90 (parts) πŸ”΄
Engine Crankshaft Seal Kit $33.12 (parts) $20–$50 (parts) 🟒

Detailed Analysis

Advice On Your Quote

Repair Task Quoted Price Typical Price Price Fairness
Replace Timing Chain (Labor + Parts) $4,755.45
(Labor: $2,073.87, Parts: $2,681.58)
$1,300–$2,300 (labor + parts at independent)
$2,000–$3,200 (dealer)
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Install Both Bank VVT Solenoids $952.15 (labor only, no parts listed) $300–$600 (labor + typical parts) 🟠
Cooling System Drain & Fill $114.58
(Labor: $89.59, Parts: $24.99)
$80–$160 (labor + parts) 🟒
Thermostat Replacement $52.51 (parts only) $20–$50 (parts) 🟒
Valve Cover Gasket Set $160.34 (parts) $30–$90 (parts) πŸ”΄
Engine Crankshaft Seal Kit $33.12 (parts) $20–$50 (parts) 🟒

1. Replace Timing Chain

Labor: $2,073.87
Parts (Timing Set): $2,681.58

  • Typical labor: 4-8 hours; at $135-$150/hr, 8 hours Γ— $150 = $1,200 tops, usually less at independents.
  • Typical parts: Timing sets usually cost $100–$300 aftermarket, up to $800+ OEM; $2,700 is very high, even dealer pricing.
  • Labor charge is nearly double typical high-end rates.
  • Parts price is extreme; shouldn’t top $1,500 unless every timing-related part is included at OEM prices.
  • Recommendation: Request a detailed parts breakdown and price exact part numbers online.
  • Potential upsell: Charging as if everything needs replacement at top dollar.

2. Install Both Bank VVT Solenoids

Labor: $952.15
Parts: Not listed separately (usually $100–$300 each)

  • Labor time: 2–4 hours fair; at $150/hr, 4 hours is about $600 max.
  • Nearly $1,000 for just solenoids install is high, especially combined with timing chain work.
  • Parts cost not broken out; solenoids usually $100–$300 each.
  • Potential upsell: Replacing both VVT solenoids β€œjust because” without codes or symptoms; they are not failure-prone unless problematic.

3. Perform Cooling System Drain & Fill

Labor: $89.59
Parts: OE Orange Coolant $24.99

  • Typical labor: 0.5–1 hour ($60–$150), parts price is fair.
  • Charge is reasonable and appropriate if done with engine work.

4. Thermostat Replacement

Parts: $52.51 (labor not listed)

  • Typical part costs $20–$50; $52.51 is acceptable for decent brand or OE.
  • Labor would be minimal if coolant system is also serviced.
  • Reasonable if part of larger engine repair.

5. Valve Cover Gasket Set

Parts: $160.34

  • Typical cost: $20–$50 aftermarket, up to $90 OEM.
  • $160 is high; might include spark plug tube seals but still seems inflated.
  • Potential upsell: Heavily marked up parts price.

6. Engine Crankshaft Seal Kit

Parts: $33.12

  • Typical cost $20–$50, this is reasonable.

7. Timing Chain Tensioners

Parts & Labor: Included

  • Should be part of the full timing kit cost; correct to not charge separately.

Is Anything a Pure β€œUpsell”?

  • Likely upsell: Both VVT solenoids replaced without codes or symptoms.
  • Parts prices suggest profit padding, not unnecessary work, except potentially for solenoids.
  • Cooling system service is reasonable with engine work.

Should You Get a Second Opinion?

  • Request a line-item breakdown with part manufacturers and part numbers.
  • Compare estimates from an independent shop and a local Ford dealer for timing chain, VVT solenoids, and gasket work for exact comparison.

Final Call

  • The quote is significantly higher than typical market rates for parts and labor.
  • Some items are reasonably priced; most parts and labor fees appear inflated or padded.
  • Main probable upsells: replacing both VVT solenoids unnecessarily, and padded pricing on timing set and valve cover gaskets.
  • Recommended to seek a second opinion from well-rated independent mechanics, clarifying what is truly necessary and comparing prices.
  • Mention any symptoms or codes to avoid paying for unneeded parts or services.

πŸ“‹ Services Quoted

Based on the provided OCR runs and the visual information from the image, here’s the final output formatted according to the specified rules: --- ### ENGINE Total: $7,132.53 **LABOR** - REPLACE TIMING CHAIN - Labor to replace timing chain - $2,073.87 - PERFORM COOLING SYSTEM DRAIN & FILL - Labor to drain and fill cooling system - $89.59 - BOTH BANK VVT SOLENOID - Labor to install both bank VVT solenoid - $952.15 - TENSIONERS - included in total - FRONT CRANK SEAL - included in total **PARTS** - ENGINE COOLANT THERMOSTAT - 1 x $52.51 - $52.51 - OE ORANGE COOLANT - 1 x $24.99 - $24.99 - ENGINE TIMING SET - 1 x $2,681.58 - $2,681.58 - ENGINE VALVE COVER GASKET SET - 1 x $160.34 - $160.34 - ENGINE CRANKSHAFT SEAL KIT - 1 x $33.12 - $33.12 **ADDITIONAL FEES** None listed --- This ensures clarity and follows the desired output format.

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